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Mr. WILCOTT - I was able to but I never did. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people from the CIA did you speak to who speculated that Oswald was an agent? Mr. PREYER - So that in XXXX, you indicated, six or seven people talked to you and were, as I understood it, rather definite about the Oswald connection? Mr. CORNWELL - Do you remember anything about it? As mentioned, I was forced to flee Dallas until another day. Mr. PREYER - Thank you. The Three Barons proves that it is possible (with enough research), to reconstruct the organizational chart of the JFK plot. Mr. CORNWELL - Has any representative of the Agency or anyone who you believed might be a representative of the Agency ever come to you and discussed these matters? He stated that he left work because, in his opinion, based upon remarks of BILL SHELLEY, he did not believe that there was going to be any more work that day due to the confusion in the building. Mr. WILCOTT - It is a little bit east of Oakland, California. 1964, of course, the Vietnam war was going on and Lyndon Johnson was now president. He was not questioned by the Warren Commission. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. James B. Wilcott worked for the CIA from May of 1957 to April of 1966. Behind the building are five loading docks and an asphalt lot extensive enough to accommodate a number of trucks of any given size. However, if you received this information two or three months after the assassination, at a time that Oswald was already dead and had been dead for two or three months, what purpose would have been served by checking records that were only 30 days old? Namely the mention that Shelley was a CIA operative, while at the same time he was an employee in the schoolbook business. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And are you saying then that you attempted to investigate this allegation? As we shall see, this might have been designed to conceal the fact that some people working there were being harassed and bullied. Also puzzling is the manner by which they asked new employees point-blank if they were members of the CIA. Below is Mr. Glazes letter: House of Re. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I am. Learn more. Mr. DODD - Did anyone else at the Agency know of your views at the Agency and did you communicate with other people about your dissatisfaction? (At this time the school book depository had been relocated to a warehouse near the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35.). Their apartment looked as if no one had ever lived in it. I believe it was more in a speculative realm. Did you recognize any part of it, the first two letters or the last portions of it, as referring to any geographic area or any type of activity or anything like that? Additional gift options are available when buying one eBook at a time. Mr. WILCOTT - They were retained for approximately one year by the finance office, approximately one to two years, and were destroyed at the time of audit. This was making payments and keeping pay records. It was not until 1999 that I located and spoke with Leslie Thompson, one of the original members. Mr. WILCOTT - Especially after Kennedy's assassination, there was a great deal of very, very serious discontent with CIA, and the morale at the station had dropped considerably, and we heard some very, very bitter denunciations of CIA and the projects that they were undertaking. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. She & her husband left Dallas shortly afterward. It was more of a casual kind of thing, to my way of thinking. Did you contact any CIA officer or employee with respect to the secrecy oath and discuss with them whether or not you should be permitted to discuss these matters outside of the Agency? His information was that he had been unwittingly involved with paying Oswald through a high security clearance, since he worked in the finance office. He also claimed he had disbursed cash funds for Oswald or The Oswald Project. After his interview and testimony he was claims he was harassed by the federal government and put under surveillance. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why has it been difficult? Mr. WILCOTT - Anything they had there would have -- sometimes they used as many as two or three different cryptonyms and they would have -- it all depended on how far they wanted to isolate it from the original source, from the original source as to where the project was run. Shelleys claim that he was an intelligence officer would make sense if, as an ROTC lieutenant, he received intelligence training and perhaps even given some assignments in counterespionage. Mr. WILCOTT - I was recruited from the school in Syracuse New York, where I was taking a course in accounting and busi- ness administration. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I believed it to be a little more than speculation, that the source at least of this kind of talk was, I believe, to be something more serious than speculation. Mr. SAWYER - What were they? "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." - enshrined on the lobby floor of the entrance to CIA headquarters. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't understand. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. Mr. CORNWELL - What type of people were they? Consider the following letter: Re: THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, While working as a journalist in Dallas late in 1974 and early 1975, I met and spoke with Lee Harvey Oswalds supervisor at the Texas School Book Depository in Dallas, Texas. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is that explanation? They received threats over the telephone, even death threats. Butler took over as branch manager after Leon transferred to Los Angeles. She and three co-workersVictoria Adams, Sandra Styles, and Elsie Dormanviewed the shooting of the president from their fourth-floor office window. Mr. PREYER - Thank you for being here today, and I will call the subcommittee to order at this time. Mr. WILCOTT - My wife and I both left the CIA because we became convinced that what CIA was doing couldn't be reconciled to basic principles of democracy or basic principles of humanism. XXXXXXXXXXXXX. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And, Mr. Wilcott, is it true that you are a former employee with the CIA and that you are here today testifying voluntarily without a subpoena? Mr. PREYER - The Committee will resume. This was just prior to moving to Langley, in finance, and my duties there were policing accounts, and included auditing of special accounts. [13], (As an aside, CIA officer William Harvey worked for Bobbs-Merrill in the last years of his life as a law editor.[14]). They constructed a new building in the northwest part of Dallas, which both companies shared. One man had blonde or light-brown hair, wore a white shirt, and was armed with a rifle. CIA finance officer James Wilcott said, Several different individuals or firms in Dallas had been involved in one way or another with acting as cut-outs for arms shipments to Cuban exiles for the invasion. She said that she had been in the personnel department since 1982, and she never knew anyone by that name. Mr. WILCOTT - In conversation. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many months after the assassination was this? It was not until 1999 that I spoke to someone who could solve this apparent discrepancy. Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. Please try again. Mr. PREYER - Thank you. In this area were numerous cardboard boxes, four feet square by five feet high. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true. anyone? I have entered other webs, but this one is different because the spider leaves the web and stalks its preysometimes for many years.. The incident interested me enough to question the F.B.I. Mr. WILCOTT - No. [8] Jim Marrs, Crossfire (Carroll & Graf. Mr. WILCOTT - On two other occasions, I was on KPOO Radio in San Francisco and I discussed in detail, in quite a bit of detail, the speculations and also the incident of the case officer contacting me at the window. I don't recall its origins with clarity, but I think it was given to me by a professor at Southern Methodist University here in Dallas. Additional gift options are available when buying one eBook at a time. Mr. WILCOTT - My boss, Frank O'Connor said that this was told him by the public safety commissioner and that the FBI had told the public safety commissioner. Let us say, for instance, that there was a certain project going on, and the project was one that became known that this project was being carried out -- and we call it "flaps," -- and the Case Officer in charge might get word that somebody from headquarters was coming to review the files to investigate the flap. TESTIMONY OF JAMES B. WILCOTT, A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: Mr. GOLDSMITH - For the record, would you please state your name and address and occupation? Mr. GOLDSMITH - And what is the reason for that? He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman BILL SHELLEY, and thereafter went home. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I realize this is testimony 15 years after the fact. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have a personal opinion as to how or for what purpose the CIA might have handled any projects that involved Lee Harvey Oswald? . Mr. WILCOTT - Very much. In 1992, Congress passed the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act that placed all remaining government documents pertaining to the assassination in a special category and . Mr. WILCOTT - Yes; it is my belief that he was a regular agent and this was a regular project of the Agency to send Oswald to the Soviet Union. Mr. SCHAAP - My name is William Schaap, S - c - h - a -, a - p (spelling), and I am an Attorney here in Washington. She said that no one by the name of Glaze was currently working for the newspaper, nor was that name among the files of past employees. Bring your club to Amazon Book Clubs, start a new book club and invite your friends to join, or find a club thats right for you for free. Out of curiosity, he opened this door and saw a large storage area that took over half of the square footage of the fourth floor. When Doug Kellner answered the phone, I described to him the contents of the letter. Mr. SAWYER - Was he in Utica? Mr. PREYER - How many people were at the station in XXXXXXXXXXX approximately? Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people have you spoken to that said that Oswald was an agent of the CIA, to the best of your recollection? And I think that is why I probably heard a lot more things than other people did, for instance, than my wife did, because of that situation. From January of 1965 to about March of 1965, I was at Langley in the same area, in finance, policing accounts and auditing of special accounts, and I was promoted up to GS-9. Mr. CORNWELL - All you can recall is that, when you. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you remember which of these individuals if any, made the specific allegation or reference that Oswald was an agent? There are photos of him getting into a police car along with Bonnie Ray Williams and Daniel Arce. Ruffians driving by yelled derogatory things and threw objects at the house such as half-empty beer cans. The incident occurred in about 1969. Then, as time Went on, I began to hear more things in that line. Upon exiting the elevator, he saw a short hallway. Mr. CORNWELL - Why did you leave the CIA? [19] Immediately after Adams and Styles went out the back door, Officer Marion Baker came in through the front door and met Roy Truly. From June of 1964 to about December of 1964, I was at Roseland. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Excuse me, please proceed very slowly. Yet judging by the disgust in his voice when he said at the police station Im just a patsy, he probably did not know that he would be the one accused of killing the president. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. At the end of the hallway to his right was another door. Mr. WILCOTT - That was late '68 or perhaps early 1969. [7] The Bergins house appeared to be under surveillance and their telephone line seemed to have been tapped. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And your testimony has been truthful and candid? December 30, 2005 in JFK Assassination Debate Share Followers 0 Posted December 30, 2005 I started to read through the HSCA testimony of James Wilcott on the History Matters website, and ran across this line on page 1: "Approximately April-June, 1963, Cryptonym for Oswald Project approx. Did he say to you, "I think Oswald was a CIA agent," or did that first person say to you that he was a CIA agent? For example, Joes father had to clear visitors with Roy Truly, the building manager, even though they were top executives from the company headquarters in Chicago. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, for a limited period. Mr. SAWYER - Do you distinguish between an agent and a paid informant or do you use those terms interchangeably? I made my call and left. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, are you here with Counsel today? I then proceeded to write an article called The Glaze Letters for the May 1999 issue of Jerry Roses JFK assassination research journal called The Fourth Decade. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, he mentioned the cryptonym specifically under which the money was drawn. Please publish modules in offcanvas position. heard it, that was not the first occasion on which you had seen it or heard it? Reminder warnings were given on an individual or a small group basis. Mr. WILCOTT - No; I think that I looked through my advance book -- and I had a book where the advances on projects were run, and I leafed through them, and I must have at least leafed through them to see if what he said was true. Mr. WILCOTT - No. He was still living on Tatum Avenue at the time of the assassination. The memo said that Oswalds FBI informant number was S172 and that his CIA number was 110669. Wilcott also claimed that while at his station assignment in Japan, it was common knowledge that Lee Harvey Oswald worked for the CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - Gordon Finch. Please publish modules in offcanvas position. The fact that he went and got his gun afterwards and then walked to the Texas Theater, perhaps to meet with someone, this suggests that he had some kind of agenda to fulfill. Mr. CORNWELL - What did they say along those lines? Mr. GOLDSMITH - At the time that this allegation first came to your attention, did you learn the name of Oswald's Case Offficer at the CIA? Mr. GOLDSMITH - I think we had better go over that one more time. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. [13] Henry Hurt, Reasonable Doubt (New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1985), pp. Mr. DODD - Talking about hours afterwards or a day afterwards? Mr. WILCOTT - That is true, sir. Mr. CORNWELL - That is, that subject matter, your statement on the Oswald agency matter, be printed or otherwise publicized in a news publication, radio or TV or anything like that on any other occasion? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. He kept his pocket calendars from his years of employment, and he noted when the grocery company moved out of the building to a new facility in another part of Dallas. Strange Deaths Of People Who Knew Too Much About The JFK Assassination: 92 Witnesses, Researchers, CIA Agents, Police Officers, Reporters, Girlfriends Who Just Knew Way Too Much! Mr. PREYER - And dozens of others talked to you in a general, speculative manner? And do you know for a fact that he was given Russian courses? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes sir. Mr. CORNWELL - Had you ever run into any similar cryptonym? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Assuming that Oswald was an agent for the CIA, would the agency's cash disbursement files have referred to either Oswald or to his cryptonym? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was Jerry Fox one of the people that made. From April of 1965 to April of 1966, I was at Miami Station in finance, and I was handling the staff payroll. Mae Brussell showed copies of this document to the editors of Globe. In the work that Oliver Stone has done for his upcoming four-part documentary series on the JFK case, he uncovered information that Truly was not being paid directly through the Texas School Book Depository in 1963. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir; he was described to me as an, agent and I was led to believe, from the conversations that he was an agent. The 1960 directory lists him as a department manager for the Texas School Book Depository, living in a house at 126 Tatum Avenue. Wilcott was a private pilot and landed his plane at noon, 11-23-63, Tokyo time. Charles Givens, like Oswald, had left the building after the assassination. For many years he assisted organizations that helped veterans, monitored the nuclear power industry, and worked to ensure basic human rights. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't know how to answer that. The CIA and the JFK Assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - I think it must have been two or three omths (sic) after the assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I am sorry -- if Oswald was what? His wife Mildred refused to talk about the assassination even with members of her own family. Mr. PREYER - It had no relation to your performance? I went immediately into the clear space on the ground floor and asked where there was a phone. James T. Tague was an unintended victim in the Kennedy assassination, hit by a stray bullet while stuck in traffic on the way to pick up a luncheon date. Mr. WILCOTT - It is based on the principle that only those persons who are involved in a project or involved in operation -- and even things that would not seem to be at all in any way secret -- only those people should know about, it and nobody else should know about it, and that was a "need-to-know" basis Mr. GOLDSMITH - How did you know, in 1963, what type of security precautions the Warren Commission had for conducting its investigation? [15] Shelley testimony, Volume 6 of the Warren Commission Hearings and Exhibits on page 327, hereafter to be cited as 6H327. Mr. PREYER - Let me interrupt. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, in a speculative manner. His information was that he had been unwitt. Anyone e1se? This would include things like: (1) determining lines of fire from upper story windows, (2) planning the access and escape routes for the sniper team, (3) positioning and controlling the designated patsy as a workman inside the building, (4) fabricating evidence such as rifle, cartridges, and paper bag to implicate the patsy, (5) selecting the so-called snipers nest where the ersatz evidence would be planted. Two weeks later, he wrote back: Received your letter of July 7, 1999. Was there any dispute between you and the Agency? GLAZE, Elzie Dean Age 66, is celebrated by his family for his compassion, humor and willingness to help family, friends and the world at large. On November 22, 1963, there were sixty-nine people working in the building at 411 Elm Streetthirty-three for the TSBD and forty-six for the publishers. Mr. WILCOTT - Not directly, no, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I have. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir, early 1964. That would have put it into 1964? Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Is it fair to say that the CIA is an operation that runs itself on a "need-to-know" basis? Mr. CORNWELL - What routinely was done with such note pads? With that, I pass along my rather tiny candle, plus my best wishes and encouragement. Of all times to break down, my typewriter chose tonight to do it. He enjoyed giving to others, and loved the companionship of his four dogs. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you go back to look at the book? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, sir, I think of an agent as an actual employee of the Agency; we called them indigenous agents XX XXXXXX who were agents that were on a regular salary by the case officer who was running an agent, and then there were a lot of one-time informers or maybe one- or two- or three-time informers that were paid like maybe $50 or so to attend a meeting of a political party or something of that nature. Confirming these observations were two more spectators, Ronald Fischer and Robert Edwards, who saw a man with light-colored hair and a light-colored open-neck shirt at a window on the fifth floor. (Their previous address was 501 Elm Street on the first floor of the Dal-Tex building.). I called the number of the Avalanche Journal in Lubbock, Texas and got the personnel director. House of Representatives, John F. Kennedy Subcommittee of the Select Committee on Assassinations, Washington, D. C. Mr. DODD - In. Feel free to use any part of it as you please. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes sir; at Oakland Technical High School, at the invitation of -- the social department asked me if I wanted to speak and I said yes, and so I spoke to two classes at Oakland Technical High School. There is a very large spider guarding this web of secrecy. In the new 2017 November release of JFK documents, he was interviewed in executive session under oath by the House Select Committee On Assassinations on March 22,1978. And we thought every year it was going to be coming out, and especially I didn't think that -- since what I had heard was all hearsay that I would never have seen Oswald or anything like that -- this is not the kind of thing that would be used for even something like the Warren Commission, and they would have to have something more substantial than that to go on, aside from the fact that I never would have done it in the CIA, being a very risky thing to do with the CIA. Every station was divided up -- at least every class station was divided up into areas, where we would have a China, branch, Korea branch and XXXXXXXX branch and SR branch and SR satellite. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, my tires were slashed and damage done to my car and I believe sugar poured in the gas tank, and whether this was actually CIA or not I have no way of knowing, and it could also have been just for harassment as a result of antiwar activities but I think there is also a possibility that it could have been attempts to intimidate me into talking about the CIA. As a CIA employee, Wilcott stated under oath that many people told him that Lee Harvey Oswald was an agent of the CIA after the assassination had occurred. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't confirm any of them except with the community renewal program as coming from there and I am. And perhaps even having people inside the TSBD as assets. suspicious that many of the other things that happened may have had as its source the CIA. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So that they would be routinely destroyed at the time of auditing? Obviously, if Shelly had been arrested, someone with the police had that record expunged. I think, or I am certain, in my own mind, that, if these people were approached that some of these people -- He saw two white men sitting by the stairs. Mr. WILCOTT - It was stated as a fact -- Oswald or the Oswald project. I found it very, very difficult to talk about these things that I think ought to be talked about, very difficult. Mr. WILCOTT - We were married in 1954, sir. I am sorry. Carolyn Walther, a street spectator waiting to see the presidents motorcade, observed a two-man sniper team at a window on the fifth floor on the far-right side of the building. Mr. SAWYER - Are there any others that you can specifially identify as coming from the CIA or FBI? Thank you for your kind words and interest. Mr. WILCOTT - I believe they would at one time. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you bring your allegation to the attention of the Warren Commission? 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