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Lol there I was in my pajamas with a coat over it. I have such high anxiety that the emotional abuse is nearly pushing me over the edge. Busy before and busy when you get home. When I arrived home and demanded the whereabouts of HER phone, she said it was in her purse, whilst she played with Facebook. I advocate to getting bad ass empowered by any means necessary. Im still not convinced its over for him. Give me just enough info hoping Id throw him to the curb. But you know what? Youve got a ton going for you!! ?and you will never trust me which is crap as I told him I have no intention of policing him and his whereabouts and trust is given but it has to be honoured. I had a rubber mallet in my car. All Rights Reserved. My hs lawyer was a bull dog lawyer back in the day. Negative beliefs about marriage can really change. This is not a new phenomenon and has probably been around for as long as marriage has existed. I cant say it enough.take care of you. Newly married or long term M. Bf/Gf or domestic cohabitation the patterns are surprisingly similar. You can control how you act, feel, talk, communicate in your relationship. Repeat my exwife was the one that ran away from me and our son. I cried every day non stop )except when kids were around ????. Is he afraid to stand up to his meddling and toxic parents that he wants R? We live on a golf course so my friends playing that day got an eyeful!! Youve let him know your intentions. People just drift apart. The shock has been so intense and Ive struggled to process it. His hug and kiss goodbye today felt genuine and there was a pure energy behind it. Im actually looking into a clinic for my anxiety. You asked me why I thought it was okay to discount the feelings of those who dont comment. Ive found instead of denying the emotion if you ride the wave it passes. As did yoga and exercise and reading some good books. I finally fell into a stupor fueled with more xanax and ambien. And the excuse that he (she) turned out to be the wrong person is just verbiage behind which there is a spiritual emptiness. They are in it for the salacious details. In this case, I just want to ask: "Where did you look before?". Do not keep quiet about your abandonment. I read the article. Shed go to bed and Id follow later. I know that. Not one little bit. Lesson learned. But as things began to unravel between the two of them..I no longer quite know who to to believe. I told him he had to leave. Holy hell, they fly up in my face! Old or young. What do you say to yourself to give yourself permission to disregard them? When the treat is not offered the dog gets agitated. MIL texted him in the middle of our meeting she didnt tell him she had seen me (!!!) You have made me cry with your compassion and wisdom. But having a plan b for me alleviates some of the stress b/c I know I will be financially able to take care of myself. I have never felt like any contributor forced a decision on me and I hope everyone here feels supported. Im not sure that distancing is a bad thing. She used my B & E to get more money out of him. I hope I pass the test. But mostly its really good to get away from the familiar and get a new perspective. He drove me to the office and I retrieved them. I dont know Satori. Because you are still on my mind and you will always be worth it.. Now that I really understand it, I may as well add this dialogue from PILs: Satori asked for this since she clearly needed to be cheated upon. Although, a wife never wants to be seen as mommy either because then a husband has a hard time viewing her as a lover and that causes a whole other set of problems. Ive noticed my level of trust and tolerance for some people has changed. My first push back was three weeks after DDay1. Rollercoaster ride is the perfect example of life during this time. Simply communicate that you and your atty is making certain you are doing everything to protect your best interests financially and then smile like the cat that ate the canary!! Anyone can choose to end a M but you can do it respectfully and minimize the hurt and pain. I dint know if I told you but my h was gone from the home for 3 months. Or this: when I say I deserve better. Withdraw a very sizable amount of cash from our joint checking on that next business day after DDay. Satori H: Can we talk about this later?. Come to think of it, thats not a bad nickname for H. I mean he is representing for the Runaway H Olympics. Like divulging income and submitting to his requests and maybe even a little restraining order that he can never enter the residence when you arent there! Very good read. Grand Plans spoiled and power reclaimed. TFW I dont know how to get him to understand anything and not sure I want to keep trying. You are going to have to list all expenses and assets. It could have helped me cope. He doesnt like the fact he cannot have his own way. Your life is not over. Wow!!! The face is the same but their soul and their heart are gone somewhere else. Ill finish later. What do you care what a bunch of fuckwits say? Its part of the emotional immaturity, ability to completely detach, or to accept any portion of the blame, for the affair. It seems many CS do that to justify the A. I cant remember what it was but I can look for it. Anyone who had an impact during his/her formative years. Each CS is in their own boat on the ocean. I didnt feel it in my heart. See you recognize an isdue and deal with it. It is hard to understand and make sense of it all. I cant tell you the number of times I heard the words but were just friends. You must realize that you can still be a complete person without your spouse. She just doesnt have the balls to direct it to ME. we have nothing in common Hope all is well. OMG SI I dont know what I would have done had I heard her name uttered in his sleep! Or, Satori looks like she is ok without me etc so the interest is only ego-based. I didnt care anymore and I was going to move on. And sway him every chance she gets. Pretty dresses, hoop earrings and heels. 3.She understood me.like no one ever had..right!!! As opposed to the original statement (to TFW: here are the words not the actions!!) Nope. But, she always kept her honor about her at all times and never said things she regretted. He didnt cancel or run. Basically the second he was out the door, he was 100% done, no explanation given no interest nor regard for me or my wellbeing just nothing. When the invitation cards were printed and my wedding dress bought, I started questioning my decision (to get married). If this scares him just wait until he starts getting legal notices! I just dont know what the point is of fighting to be with someone who is so fixed in their decision not to save us. H wont get help and thinks he has done everything in the M so is justified for his dummy spit. At first I thought she was having a midlife crisis but she was only 33 when the bomb supposedly dropped and she announced she was moving out of state to be with her boyfriend who she had been having an affair with. Keep taking care of you..you can get through this. He is all puffed up with this uber confidence at the moment so I suspect the A has begun again. I would love to have seen the look on my face. It could end in divorce or in reconciliation. Keep showing him you will be fine without him. The Italian's Runaway Bride. Bwahahaha. Try later when I get my brain back. You dont have to be a party to his downward descent into his own black hole. Second is to read some articles Regarding exit Affairs. I heard that too. When my h got the notice from my lawyer how Id set the process in motion he had moved to his sisters place six doors down from me if you remember reading in my last post. This shit is real. Satori I will be without wifi for a while so dont think Im ignoring you. satori you have clearly described your Hs required commitment to you and M. Counseling and no contact and all that. The people who get burned the most are the ones who have allowed their spouse to magically maintain a certain lifestyle without knowing how such a lifestyle is maintained or where the money comes from. If he had come back early on and made some instant changes and effort, then it might be another story but the serious damage has been done. Single Dadwhat great, wise and compassionate advice and words. Not sure if anyone has noticed this? He swears he was so scared to get out of the affair that if I were to find out Id have kicked him to the curb. This narrative must be peddled by my H to them and they are regurgitating it to my Dad but it is making me really angry with H and PILs. As you put it, every word is a no win situation for me too. Sadly you have to move on and continue your life without him. Dont go to a public place because its too easy for them to leave if the convo gets heated. So we all stood and laughed until I got tired of watering my clothes and shoe garden. Put your well being first. Everything I have read says that in most Runaway H scenarios, a mood or depressive disorder is underpinning it. Of that I am certain. Make an offer and then renege down the road! Bride and groom had signed off on every contract and was fully prepared to tie the knot. Are you kidding me? I feel terrible for these husbands because in most cases nothing can be done. I wonder what he heard. Maybe that's just a flaw people has to accept, Posted by merisle at 08:53 But R aside I am focused on the $, hoping I can get him to the pointy end of signing off the financials. Lets just say for now between my sisters giving me 4 xanax and 2 ambien and I still didnt sleep matter of fact got in my car and drove, there may or may not have been some B & E and destruction of property!!! Do not fall for the lies and remember, the battle is with themselves not you. My H could play golf when he wanted and do things with his friends and I made sure he had time away from kids (as did I). Satori There are none of the normal human responses to unpleasant behaviour present. Id keep the conversations light and about business. Hi ShiftingImpressions. SO TRUE. Just putting this out there, because its at play in so many cheating relationships, but unfortunately, most of the wonderful reconciliation techniques, will.not.work. Im also wondering how much I contributed to creating that image without thinking any deeper and making sure there was accountability from the get go rather than just the veneer of the cute couple with the cottage and the dog etc. Focus on your wellbeing and your child(ren). My real home, which I had purchased with my investment funds, was being occupied by the enemies: the other woman and my ex. Well sort of. He told them I did nothing wrong and it was all his fault. Im not arguing that MLC is legitimate or not. Such easy words always said by no one who has ever gone through this. Really loathe to see him as a covert narcissist but he ticks a lot of the boxes if not always in the most extreme way. Im feeling pretty certain he has gone and talked to her and that convo is what drove her to come talk to you. My price for this mess will be higher than anyones. It was my fault he was unhappy (yup raising two kids while he travelled every week and making his life so damn easy eas a readon for his unhappiness and my fault)! I still have a lot of things inside me that dont just want to go away. He agreed. Seriously NC like I hope he doesnt know you are going kind of NC. Thats part of what makes us individuals. runaway bride (plural runaway brides) A bride-to-be who runs away from a wedding shortly before the ceremony, often due to so-called cold feet. There were so many times I wanted to bail b/c if a number of reasons (but not cheating or lying) but we hung in there. And I realized the only thing I could have done had I known he was unhappy was to suggest IC for him. At least you dont have that!! But, in the end, none of that mattered. And he said it had been going in for 18 months prior. They all regularly say how they are still shocked. Sorry Im not buying it. Satori. Like others here, you have a BIG HEART. This whole experience will forever change that for me. My story above about the inspiration or influence as you call it has stayed with me, as I have long felt my H tends to be whoever he is in front of at the time. Bottom line: anyone who hasnt done the work on themselves is dangerous to my emotional health and wellbeing, and the only way for me to be safe around them is for me to put the responsibility back on them, by letting them know they need to figure out more creative and productive ways of processing their difficult emotions. Chances are they will never comment, but that doesnt mean they are unworthy of consideration. Works wonders for the anxiety. At some point you need to get off the crazy train and that is what the 180 does gets you some distance to not engage in the drama. He sounds like he is in a place that he doesnt know which end is up. Good friends through college and then dating as seniors in college. It is no understatement to say that going there saved my life. No more compassion. My dog is the only thing keeping me here. No hand holding or hand wringing what to do attitude for me. And then he would start acting like a man. And LOL this was before I even knew what NC was or of its power. Bad thing is if hes not working you may have to pay him support!!! Im happy to hear youre in better spirits and I think it may be because you have a good therapist. I have shared with close friends, and one or two of them have been really supportive and some others just overwhelmed with their own lives and no personal fault but its a few outliers that maybe sit on the cusp of being able to move into closer friendship but maybe this tests them so they cant deepen. None of my friends do. That post made me think I should not let it all hang out. I am now looking at my role, NOT so I can fix H (only H can fix himself ????) The long-term investment involved in a serious, committed relationship often makes people more vulnerablethey are terrified that the relationship might fail and leave them stranded or badly hurt. I wouldnt try to keep it short. Im sorry if some get offended by anything but this is our safe zone. I dont know what I would have done if I heard my H say a name. Both M & F. Old or young. I didnt sleep for 5 months after DDay1 and my Hs midife crisis A causing him to say I want a divorce seemingly out of nowhere too. Most everyone here has a great message. Ugh I cant believe they make you wait a year!!! One woman even admitted that at her wedding ceremony, she felt a strong desire to run away and have sex with her former boyfriend. I am one of the people in the psych community who (rightly or wrongly) recognizes these two types of narcissists, even if my peers do not. I was determined no matter what happened in my marriage I would come out the other side better for it. She is taking marital advice from her daughter who has severe mental issues, as you know, the apple must not fall far from the tree. I dont feel like OW is in the picture and as a strict rule I never mention OW anyway. On another post ages ago, TryingHard said no one wants to be anyones second choice. I have and will continue to recommend this book. I have one and made it a condition of staying to Work on R. My therapist never said anything specific to get us to R or make me want to R. It was my choice b/c I loved him and he was a great father and even during the A he waffled back and forth. Its not warranted but we wont admit that, why should we? I knew my DIL was having an affair. Cannot believe these people exist who do this kind of criminal stuff you describe? Im sorry I didnt respond. Im not changing. But tell him your intention is not the problem here. I wonder how long your grief lasted as mine feels like it could be here for the long haul. Trust your gut here. I know Im still working on accepting all that has transpired and realize that I may never fully understand why my ex did what she did. Not coincidentally, as I write this, I have a headache. If I brought up issues in the morning You have ruined my whole day, TH: Theres nothing wrong with me I am not going to counseling. You did nothing to cause your spouse to leave. Several years ago, there was also Dick the Dermatologist who did something similarhe abandoned his wife and their autistic child (with absolutely no notice) to move in with the former nanny and the nannys mom. H took blame for the whole mess and said he had worried a lot about me since it all began that he knew he was doing serious emotional damage and wrong things. I cannot imagine a M in recovery with newly developed in-law issues (created by the CH). But theres a new and quite weird smugness too. Feeling a lot calmer. Thank you TFW. And this will also be a hint to whom the soul lies. He couldnt help it, he loved you but then he accidentally fell in love with someone else. At home I got on the computer that linked to his office computer. I found some incriminating emails and hit print. S. Its encouraging your H made a move towards you. SatoriBwahaha yes indeed he has the crap client!!! That is just me. Weve had our life and we do not wish to be disturbed by inconvenient truths let alone emotions associated with accountability for what we brought into the world in GoldenCHild and the faulty programming we installed in him due to our psuedo mutuality and covert narcissism. Eventually Love Will Win: Abhishek & Chaitanyas Story Proves Love Triumphs Over Every Norm, 2023 Has Brought These 6 New Bollywood Romances To The Forefront & Were So Ready For The PDA, Obsessed With Alia & Ranbir? Offer to pay over a term period. Really no guts. My Dad offered him a place he owns to live in while he is in this situation!! I grieve the purity of what we had. I am still confused.and will probably never understand what went so very wrong. I applaud your sons loyalty. Even if once in a while the cheaters need to be reminded of those boundaries. I was kind and compassionate and forgiving. I was in shock. I do and I know a lot of others do too. And, Ive spent the last year and a half crying?????? Cant stop crying. It all started a long time agoprobably as long ago as marriage existedbut most recently this phenomenon was brought into focus by Vikki Stark in her book Runaway Husbands. LOL!!! But she wasnt going to tell me anything. The visualization technique is effective in this case. Ive done this sparingly, maybe 3 or 4 times now. Ive done the right thing by you the whole way and I you have destroyed my whole life. Smh. Wouldnt sit close to me so we could go through the documents. The long distance aspect for sure adds to the allure. [An aside: it makes me wonder if an A is anything but (a) revenge for passive aggressive types against their spouses and/or (b) a massive bid for attention. From my take in her posts she trying to be on some path of personal, self enlightenment etc so good for her. Im a big girl, I dont really care what they think. OAR = Ownership / Accountability / Responsibility > above the line thinking My Dad who would have every reason to write my H off considering how I have been treated has thrown his support behind R if that is what I want. It is high anxiety having to keep the business together and not fall apart personally. All these things are made so much harder by the drip feeding of the info. Not returning. Also. OW is a pathetic leech on the bottom layer of Maslows Hierarchy of Needs. Forewarned forearmed right! My daughter said later that I should have called her at work to come get the little girls but I didnt think to even do that. Satori Im looking forward to him finding out how hard it really is when you dont have a loving W in the corner doing everything for you to run your life and your business etc. BSA, I acknowledge and respect your complaint and respect your opinions and your perspectives. SatoriYou find those therapists by interviewing them or even asking them when you call to set an appointment. She's not gonna have runaway bride syndrome, she hasn't even gotten enough time to develop it." "W-well, I mean, I'm still about to get married, dude!" he responded as he watched the girls from his class join the party and settle into the front row, across from Nekomaru and Dachi. Like an alien being. At the time, he was my best friend. 6 times and always twisted the damn dagger so I learned to say BYE, when shed do that. Stay strong and take care of you. Well as the old saying goes, blood is thicker than water. I would never want someone to experience the grief, agony, pain, and sadness of realizing your spouse has cheated in order to have a better marriage. Dont limit yourself to the false belief that lewd rhetoric and abrasive posturing is all you have to offer. I was too clingy. He said it is like climbing Mount Everest. WTF does that mean??? But it was a light touch email. No in fact theres no difference. You probably wont look good in an orange jumpsuit either. Call APD Recruiting" followed by the police department's telephone number. I pray that others find it sooner just so they know they arent alone in this nightmare. Im bummed. That tells you he doesnt think any of this is his doing. Protect yourself. I was furious with him. It is renegotiating terms. Hope youre doing ok. Satori. Puzzled was saying the same thing (about standing in the way of him and the dream etc). When lines of respect are being crossed it is up to us to say enough. It sucks.It sucks. Ive kept my cool for the most part but the lack of sleep and edginess of things allows H to provoke me on some occasions. Especially if you have no idea if he will continue to support you in the next months. But from a sky-high view he is digging his own hole. Or did they grab the oar and paddle away? You can do so much better. UGH. But the possibility of doing the hard, vulnerable work of deep reconciliation, is very small, in these situations. I had no idea how bad it truly was for you. Oh yeah and this is the kicker, he came home sick from the holiday and whilst not working he continued the affair from our bed / couch. Satori No hope for recovery. I emphasized that forgiveness is the only way forward regardless but I also said that in practical terms of the M clearly it cant be effective without the cooperation by H. (Exactly as you said) Not so far though. I think of Marital Abandonment Syndrome like a freight train that everyone sees but hides from the person sitting on the railroad tracks. Good luck with that. I always wear sunnies as I find planes very emotional have cried through countless takeoffs in my life. Our three-year relationship had been characterized by fun, common hobbies, similar life experiences, and love of travel and writing. Satori- This really sucks. I cant solve his problems for him, but it does give me empathy. (And yes, he is terrified of emotions: check.). I hope you have the right lawyer. Thanks for your good wishes. H: Yes I know, but you wont trust me again. ! My response was Why didnt you just tell me in plain English. Both of you seemed to have stayed at home until you got a sign of R do you think it makes a difference? I was absolutely off my head angry. It was comforting to know that I had friends who completely understood. I just need to move forward. Also just dont want to run into the many people I know in our area so I do not have to talk to anyone about the situation. I know for me it was very comforting to know I wasnt alone in my thinking wwwwhhhhattt????. The first and most important thing you can do is to rally a support network around you. They just enable him and I am just as angry and hurt by them as by H. H is NOT fine. If OW is still in the picture then he is clearly thinking of his financial consequences mostly. If you care about helping betrayed spousesand I believe you dothen I challenge you to consider all of them and not just the ones who dont threaten your fixed identity. It is believed that if something goes wrong, it will affect family well-being. A very wise friend told me there is anger in grief. My husband described himself during that time as feeling he was being blown by the winds. And its hard to do when your heart is screaming NO. 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